Surveys find new Tories are Thatcher’s children but support gay rights
Two surveys of Conservative candidates have found that the majority support equal gay rights. Between a third and three-quarters said they supported giving gay couples the same rights as heterosexuals.
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Eddy, I stand by my comments that you and Neville are a couple of racist.
Let us for example look at Neville’s comment on 3rd February 2010:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?comments_popup=16055
“Is it true that Sister Mary, I have a nice job, nice, car, nice house, Clarence refers to Iain Duncan Smith as Massa?”
‘Massa’ for those not as up on the slave trade as Neville appears to be is the term formerly used for a slave owner. Now, Eddy, Neville might in his head still be living in slave times, but do you really think in this day and age suggesting that (I would assume) because I am black I use slave terminology when addressing people in positions of authority or influence?
And how about this one … ring any bells:
“The incredible black/white/male/female Sister Mary Clarence.
In that case, Eddy, the notion that a black man could masquerade as a white woman in so-called holy orders is distasteful in the extreme. I have always thought of the black nun, Sister Mary, as a particularly vulgar person of very limited intelligence. In fact he/she comes over as being quite deranged. It will not be possible for anyone to take him/her seriously ever again. This, to me, revelation must be posted on every single thread on which she/he has the temerity to appear. No one can take him/her/black/white to be a real person anymore!”
So to be clear, the revelation that I am black ‘must be posted on every single thread on which she/he has the temerity to appear’
More than happy to do that if everyone else is being required to post their ethnicity obviously, but of course they are now.
I haven’t got all night to waste on your Simon, but I think these two help to make the point, although of course there are many others.
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Eddy/ Neville: I have waded through your vitriolic diatribe with a quick scroll bar. So far all either you two have managed to do is personally insult and smear both Sister Mary and myself with innuendo, slander and distorted quotations. (Like I only like Pure English people and live with 95% non-whites – I stated I was 7th gen English, and 95% of my local area was non-indigenous.)
Don’t twist my words, you vituperous little turd.
Equally you have called the Tories and anyone with even a slight leaning to the right as the spawn of Hitler, yet NOT ONCE, after 80+ comments have either of you said anything to either counterbalance what anyone has said, or entered into a proper debate from your political standpoint.
So either PUT UP or SHUT UP.
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Neville – how dare you tell us what ‘a truly concerned black person should be’ – you are no better than one of your Victorian slave-owning coloniser ancestors. Please keep your imperialist values to yourself and stop telling others who do not happen to share the same opinions or the same skin colour as yourself how to think. It is exactly this New Labour apparatchick (sic) bullying mentality that has driven so many voters away from Labour. We are fed up of being told what and how we ’should’ be thinking – its patronising in the extreme and a very good reason to vote Conservative or Lib Dem!
I see from today’s paper’s that Labour has now been infiltrated by the Islamic Front – so beware all you Labourites – your fundamentalist bedfellows are waiting to knife you in the back as you sleep! Another good reason to vote Tory.
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Sister Mary is a travesty of what a truly concerned black person would be, and for that reason, and because of her many other absurdities, she has been made the butt of many individuals’ scorn and derision. She is certainly not seen by the many who attack her as being in any way typical or representative of the black race: she is merely an egregious fool. She is supported, or so it seems, by a deranged transsexual who regularly screams abuse and obscenities, and who is never happy unless she can trumpet racism. In some ways they are both to be pitied!
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Sister Mary Clarence, you have not provided evidence for your extremely offensive claim that “Neville is racist” by managing only to paste in two insults from other posters – one of whom is a hysteric, like yourself, and earlier this week claimed on these threads that under Labour all UK universities have been transformed into sites for the training of Islamic terrorists!
No, the presentation of evidence, Sister Mary Clarence, requires you to present here a statement, or statements, made by Neville which prove that he believes that one particular race is superior to others and that Neveille, from that point of view, he has actually discriminated or exercised prejudice against those races that you claim he deems inferior.
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#56, Sister Mary Clarence wrote: “You’re absolutely right, I did play a part in the other thread getting closed in a way” So SMC accepted the thread was simply closed.
#75, Sister Mary Clarence wrote: “No I haven’t at all [accepted that the thread has not been removed but only closed].”
Goodness, what a mess this LGBTory makes of “data analysis”!
He can’t even understand what he himself has thought, said, and written!
Moral: beware all gay and lesbian Tories! As that quote in post #73 points out they embody a “surprising conjuncture of attitudes”!
I would modify that to “a surprising and dangerous conjuncture of attitudes”!
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“4. Sister Mary Clarence has made wild and exaggerated claims about the gay fiestas which he has claimed occur at his local Tory Christmas parties each year and although invited repeatedly to provide the name and address of his Tory Christmas-party-organiser ….”
Surely Eddy, unless you’re actually every been to one of these parties, your in no position to actually state what does and doesn’t go on. Passing uninformed opinion off as fact doesn’t actually make it fact I’m afraid
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“3. Sister Mary Clarence has accused Neville and myself of racism but has, of course, failed to prove it. We are not.”
Didn’t take too long to find these Eddy, clearly its a view shared by others:
Neville judging by several comments from you on this news site previously, I imagine you would be voting for the Klu Klux Clan.
I can’t imagine the lib dems welcoming you with the sort of views you have expressed here
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Comment by Jose – February 24, 2010 @ 22:06
oh neville i never realised that the Lib Dems where the party of choice for Racist Lack Wits like yourself.
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Comment by theotherone – February 25, 2010 @ 0:49
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Eddy:
“2. Sister Mary Clarence stated earlier this afternoon that a thread was removed. Sister Mary Clarence has subsequently accepted that the thread he referred to has, in fact, not been removed …..”
No I haven’t at all. Another say-it-enough I guess!!
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cavero. even though it may cost me I’ll take my chances with labour. Ashcroft and goldsmith don’t pay uk tax , cameron and osbourne are millonaries who talk about austerity I just don’t get it.
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Hysterical desperate posturing messes just about sums up any gay or lesbian who has anything to do with the Conservatives.
Here’s another example:
“Nick King, who is likely to be one of several gay MPs, including at least one lesbian, if the swing to the Tories gives the party a majority, embodies the surprising conjuncture of attitudes in the party. The candidate in Mid Dorset and North Poole named his heroes as Lady Thatcher and Harvey Milk — the slain gay rights champion immortalised on film by Sean Penn.”
“Surprising conjuncture of attitudes”! = minds in a total mess!
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Sister Mary Clarence is LGBTorys’ worst possible advertisement. As far as I can see he’s pretty typical of the hysterical desperate posturing mess that is LGBTory and the Conservatives in general.
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dean,
as I said the tories are not great but they seem to be trying Labour just want to punish the rich and give their mates the toff’s money.
Vote Labour and punish the middle class and rich, vote Tory and punish the poor (apparantly, Politics 101).
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Your comments, Eddy, are pertinent, in that they well sum up that pathetic case, Sister Mary Clarence. I hope that others will now see her/him for what she/he is. You are right in that she was much given to assertions, indeed wild, unpleasant assertions about those with whom she did not agree, and assertions which sometimes lacked a basis in truth. She liked to try to shout people down, sometimes with the cry of ‘racism’, the last defence of those unable to rationally defend themselves. Much of her attitude is reminiscent of the policeman, Ali Dizaei, who made a career out of such a claim, that was before riding for a fall! It is sad to see someone who claims to have once been a left-wing supporter, where the appellation ’sister’ might have had some meaning, become a rabid Tory follower. Some would use old-fashioned language and call her a class traitor, for what she has become is a working-class Tory, something not pleasant to behold. She always had to assume that someone who did not rabidly follow the Tory party, and thus become a supporter of it, was a labour supporter and therefore at the opposite extreme. She is well placed in the company of that buffoon, RobN!
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as I said labour are not great but they seem to be trying Tories just want to punish the poor and give their mates inheritance tax releif and fox hunting.
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“if the Tories get in expect cuts to everything and no investement in public services”
Good. They’ve been frittering away billions for far too long now.
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boris has given London a taste of Tory govt. he cancelled the cross river tram and the crystal palace extension he also stopped buses running to timetables so now buses run between a 15min window. buses now run in groups of 2&3’s. he set London transport back about a decade. s replacing the useful bendy bus with double deckers that have no room for prams and or wheelchairs. he’s a reactionary who calls £250k chickenfeed. and he got rid
of the anti racist rise festival which was quite a nice day out. if the Tories get in expect cuts to everything and no investement in public services. does anyone remember what the Tories did to nurses and teachers it was dreadful. labour are not perfect and the liberals are ineffective but the Tories are malicious.
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1. Sister Mary Clarence, time and again you have lied, exaggerated, and made outrageous claims. Your lack of integrity led you at one point to state that you were a Christian. However, owing to the vehemence of your denial that you are a Christian, we will now remove that attribute from the profile that YOU have BANGED into our heads during your years of postings on these pages.
So, as things now stand, as of February 27, 2010:
On this thread,
Sister Mary Clarence accepts he is a male,
Sister Mary Clarence accepts he is gay,
Sister Mary Clarence accepts he is black (African),
Sister Mary Clarence accepts he is a Tory,
Sister Mary Clarence accepts is a “Data-Analyst”.
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Sister Mary Clarence accepts that he lives on a London council estate.
If Sister Mary Clarence wishes to dispute any more of the above features of which he has previously advised readers, he should do so now.
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2. Sister Mary Clarence stated earlier this afternoon that a thread was removed. Sister Mary Clarence has subsequently accepted that the thread he referred to has, in fact, not been removed. (The “nun” regularly gets her wimple in a twist!) Sister Mary has failed to provide any evidence to prove his assertion that the thread was closed for further comments for the reason that he has asserted.
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3. Sister Mary Clarence has accused Neville and myself of racism but has, of course, failed to prove it. We are not.
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4. Sister Mary Clarence has made wild and exaggerated claims about the gay fiestas which he has claimed occur at his local Tory Christmas parties each year and although invited repeatedly to provide the name and address of his Tory Christmas-party-organiser so that we might all book for the next wild Tory “gay-orgy” in his neck of the woods, he has, of course, failed to do so.
Apologies to other readers, but this tiresome meddling self-named “nun” has to be dealt with firmly or he gets entirely out of hand.
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Readers considering voting Tory should consider whether they wish to support individuals who possess the behavioural characteristics that have been demonstrated here by Sister Mary Clarence.
Any rational person certainly wouldn’t.
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Against my better judgement Eddy I dredged this up:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?comments_popup=15539
“1. Eddy – as previously stated you might want to go back and read the other thread properly. I NEVER stated I was religious – someone else did.
‘Say it enough and it becomes true’, might work for you and your Labour party chums but doesn’t wash with me mate.
So, consider yourself ‘advised’. Read what is being written and by who and you might make a start at getting a few facts right. However as I have said before why spoil the argument with facts, eh? Its certainly never bothered you before.
Rather ironic as well don’t you think you defending Simon’s comments on here against allegations of racism? Its been under two weeks since Pinknews took the unusual step of closing a comments page because of the racist comments posted by you and others.
How long is it going to be before you start ‘amusing’ us all with a bit more racist cr@p?
RobN – I picked the name of a character from a Whoopi Goldberg film, because my name was being used by someone else. By your logic, I take it you’ll be assuming that the person posting under the name ‘Tom Tom’ is actually a satellite navigation device, and the person posting under the name ‘Yewtree’ is actually a small to medium sized evergreen tree believed to have some cancer curing properties.
It would be nice if for a change we could have a few discussions on here without people wading in with all this black white rubbish.
Comment by Sister Mary Clarence — December 24, 2009 @ 4:31″
Kind of re-iterates the point about making up stuff.
We could all do it could we and then where would we be?
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I’m fed up of the Labour fanboys and fangirls blindly saying how wonderful Labour is and how evil the Tories are. Like all good fanboys and fangirls they twist facts to support their cause. Most people don’t give a damn about Labour this or Conservative that, they see a party and vote accordingly. That’s why we have different governments every few years, not a 1 party communist state.
Fanboys and fangirls are stupid.
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